lex Fridman podcast – talking with Jeffrey Shainline about Neuromorphic computing and optoelectronic intelligence
Yes I know that is the kind of thing I listen to!
In reality I had fallen asleep to this one but awoke about 2 hours in to hear this spot on description of my making pictures.
‘relatively simple building blocks connected in potentially simple but sometimes complicated ways and then emergent new behaviour that was hard to predict from those simple elements and that’s exactly what we are working with here.’
I have just listened to it again and now it seems a little bit less significant
he was talking about how to build something that replicates the human brain with its layers of connectivity
https://www.artspractica.com

Here is a bit from my ‘statement’ for my first solo show:
“It all constitutes a search for the moment of (recognition?). And when I find it, there is always that small buzz of (pleasure?) which wants to be caught and made larger. It indicates that something is important and worth noticing. How much of this ‘small buzz of (pleasure?)’ is hardwired and how much culturally acquired (what is the difference?) is a different question. “
A friend who I had asked to read the statement and comment asked about this bit: ‘How much of this ‘small buzz of (pleasure?)’ is hardwired and how much culturally acquired (what is the difference?)’ in particular about ‘what is the difference?’ At first, I groaned and realised that my tendency to flaunt phrases to impress had been caught out. Then in trying to maintain face, I mentioned that the Lamark had proposed at one point that characteristics acquired during an organism’s lifetime could be passed on to the next generation. I understood that there was a conflict between Lamark’s ideas and Darwin’s. I understand Darwin’s theory to mean that an organism can only pass on characteristics which the organism was born with. My friend then mentioned some research she had seen recently that brought into doubt the belief that lifetime acquired characteristics can not be passed on to offspring and I believe I have also seen something similar.
So that could explain ‘How much of this ‘small buzz of (pleasure?)’ is hardwired and how much culturally acquired (what is the difference?). in that it might not be certain that the ‘buzz’ is hardwired and that it might arise from cultural experience. I think I am talking nonsense at this point so would merely want to say that it seems to me that something that is ‘hard-wired’ deserves more respect and is more ‘real’ that something that is culturally acquired. and perhaps this is only because hardwiring takes a very long time, lasts a very long time and is subject to laws that are objective and ‘natural’. Whereas culturation takes a shorter time, is contingent and subject to human direction.
then I heard Herbert Gintis speaking on ‘gene culture evolution’ :
People have language because of gene culture evolution. Here’s how it goes. You have a little bit of communication and people care a lot about it because they need to communicate to figure out where to go to find the next profitable location for hunting and gathering. And so then we were people who have a little bit of ability to communicate, that gives rise to genetic changes that make people more capable of communicating verbally, and that leads to more cultural dependency because people use communication more in their deliberations, and so you have a circle of genes affect culture and then the culture promotes a more genetic behavior. And this is only true in humans really, because humans only… Only humans really have cumulative culture that is where from one generation to the next, you maintain a body of knowledge and pass it on, and animals, animals have culture, but they don’t have very much cumulative culture, if birds learn how to open milk bottles, one generation learns how to do it, after a while, they forget, it goes away. It’s not cumulative.
I don’t have the time or skill right now to think this through but it might pertain to my sentence ‘How much of this ‘small buzz of (pleasure?)’ is hardwired and how much culturally acquired (what is the difference?)’
The Aesthetics of Decay
Nothingness, Nostalgia, and the
Absence of Reason
Dylan Trigg
Among Europeans today there is no lack of those who are entitled to call themselves
homeless in a distinctive and honorable sense…for their fate is hard, their hopes are
uncertain; it is quite a feat to devise some comfort for them—but to what avail? We
children of the future, how could we be at home in this today? We feel disfavor for
all ideals that might lead one to feel at home in this fragile, broken time of transition;
as for ‘realities’ we do not believe they will last. The ice that still supports
people today has become very thin; the wind that brings the thaw is blowing; we
ourselves who are homeless constitute a force that breaks open ice and other all too
thin realities.
Nietzsche (1974, p. 338)
can we still maintain that reason is the mechanism by which progress can be realized?
Despite the West’s fall into cultural pessimism, the sovereignty of reason has apparently resisted exhaustion.
Conflict invariably ensues when the principle, led by the claims of reason, exceeds its universality in relation
to a temporal present, so becoming distinctly fetid.
I think he is saying here for example the ideal of democracy is thrown into the limelight by some results of democratic votes and by the condition of ‘truth’ in the time of widespread access to means of dissemination of ideas – memes – formation of ‘belief groups’ – all the things that act against the finding of ‘truth’ given that ‘truth’ itself is hard to define and is mutable. taicbw
The divergence between universality and the temporal present is compounded as ideas are mistaken to
be intuitive, humanistic, or otherwise innate: terms which justifiably warrant suspicion. In the absence of such suspicion, the familiarity of reason prevents it from disbanding.
conflict between preformed principles like reason and on the ground contemporary events taicbw
Disillusionment and dogma
are the likely consequence as a society adjusts to the void between a static
principle and the mutable world in which that principle exists
reason resorts to defining itself negatively.
A lack of reason, led principally by “irrationalism,” generally, but imprecisely,
suggests anti-intellectual emotionalism and vague intuitionism.
If intuition is reactionary, then being overly exposed
to contextual circumstances, its judgment is said to be contingent
Reason, meanwhile, is said to derive from an atemporal and placeless
(non)environment in which context is subjugated by necessity.
the messy contingent present versus the timeless placeless principle (eg kant ‘disinterested delight’) taicbw
Through suppressing the particularity of context, aesthetic
universality is acquired at the expense of actual experience
Similarly, rational
progress is won as reactions and instincts, particular qualities, are suspended.
Precisely what this progress entails remains an obscurity
characterized by conceptual insecurity
Yet into this space of obscurity, a va-gue set of themes united by their commitment to the idea of permanency, be it political or philosophical, take precedence.
II
This book is an attack on the notion of rational progress which underlies those regimes
[he limits his use of the word ‘reason’ to “the mode of rationality as a homogenizing agent which defines and identifies the particular in accordance with a static prin-ciple already established in the past.” ]
he further says he does not attack methodological reason
UBERMORGEN
The Next Biennial Should be Curated by a Machine
And especially in the field of curating, as well as
in the visual arts and in literature, we continue the useless fight against the individual,
against genius, against the assertion of the creative individual.
The claim of the isolated
performance is obviously ridiculous and funny, but powerful institutions and influential
people still hold on to the artificial and pathetic construction of super-individual –
primarily for economic and social reasons. The mismatch between
The pluralistic credo of Rimbaud, Apollinaire, and Lautréamont: ‘Poetry must be
made by all and not by one’, an even more radical credo is added here: Our reality is
imagined, developed, fed, curated, and subsequently collectively hallucinated by all of
us, humans, animals, and machines and the new networked organisms that are us! This
form of existence can never find a hardened shape. This will not smoothly merge with
the materialism and static requirements of the art genre and establishment. In contrast
to that, in times when personality, innovation, and vibe are in demand, ‘The Next
Biennial Should be Curated by a Machine’ should definitely not be underestimated
Should synthetic curating feel and look like synthetic curating? Human editing, the
human hand, and thinking in curatorial and in epileptic fits (occasions, exhibition,
crises, sensations) convulsively try to insert the idea of the individual, the human, to
add a relatable touch to products, evenst, fits or processes. This longing awoke during
Enlightenment, it was implanted as ideology, but could never fulfill the promise of
independence, self-reliance and freedom. Based on fragile collective hallucinations, on
fairy tales of the individual as an absolute, on radical negations of the collective and
obsolete reflexes of faith, it failed miserably while causing widespread and sustainable
damage.
ACADEMIA Letters
The Arts are More than Aesthetics:
Brown, S., & Dissanayake, E. (2009). The arts are more than aesthetics: Neuroaesthetics as narrow aesthetics. In M. Skov & O. Vartanian (Eds.), Neuroaesthetics (pp. 43–57). Baywood Publishing Co.
Neuroaesthetics as Narrow Aesthetics
Steven Brown and Ellen Dissanayake
BUT tremendous ambiguities inherent in the terms “aesthetics” and “art,” ones that limit a proper understanding of human art
behavior.
It is only during the last two centuries that the terms “Art” (with an implied
capital A, connoting an independent realm of prestigious and revelatory works)
and “aesthetics” (as a unique, and even reverential, mode of attention toward such
works) have taken on their present elitist meanings and become unavoidably intertwined
(Davies, 2006; Shiner, 2001
Evolutionary aesthetics investigates
sensory preferences in animals and humans that promote selective attention and
positive emotional responses toward objects in the environment that lead to adaptive
decision making and problem solving (Orians, 2001). Objects perceived in this
manner are considered to be beautiful (Thornhill, 1998).
Although workers in evolutionary aesthetics do not overtly adhere to the elitist
philosophical connotations of aesthetics, some nevertheless write as though their
findings are applicable to an understanding of human responses to art and beauty
(e.g., Thornhill, 1998).
we suggest that present-day neuroaesthetics is limited in three
important respects by a narrow, culture-bound sense of aesthetics/art
FIRST Neuroaesthetics, like evolutionary aesthetics and
other scientific notions of aesthetics, is predicated on a class of emotions whose
biological function is to generate an appraisal of the properties of objects
……..
for assessing a wide variety of objects
important for biological survival, as in evolutionary aesthetics, where they include
landscapes, food quality, the appearance and behaviors of conspecifics,
So the aesthetic data used in neuroaesthetics apply to a fat bigger category of objects than art objects
‘Strictly speaking, it is this broad area—not works of art alone—that defines the
domain of neuroaesthetics’
As presently
conceived, neuroaesthetics has no way of distinguishing art from nonart.
we present a view of art as a behavior of “artification,” a neologism that allows us to
think of art as an activity, in other words as something that people do (to “artify”).
SECOND
……..The realm of human experience of the arts is far wider than aesthetic response to individual features……..
‘
A focus on such responses and preferences, even in individual artworks, reduces the arts to the level of receiver psychology and social functionlessness, as presupposed in many philosophical approaches to the fine arts based on Enlightenment principles.’
…..complex behaviours eg making art include an aesthetic dimension but they are not reducible to the aesthetic dimension……..
THIRD ……….art deals with the emotions so a neuroaesthiec study of art needs a basilisks of a theory of emotion. BUT th BET theory of emotion is inadequate to cope with emotions produced by art and saestheric response………..
………..art is a fuzzy category – mixed up with eurocentric conceptions……
BUT
a comprehensive scientific understanding
of art must include its manifestations in all human cultures
AND
…..art in other cultures is not the ‘disinterested’ thing that is western fine art and also may not be connected with beauty………
A foray into
the arts of non-Western cultures not only compels us to confront art practices that
are removed from the “disinterested” aesthetic practices of Western fine art, but also
forces us to consider the arts as behaviors that may have no necessary connection
with beauty (Dissanayake, 2007
……art in premodern society is ritual:…….
ritual
THE ARTS ARE MORE THAN AESTHETICS / 45
ceremonies, as behavioral manifestations of cognitive belief systems about the
way the world works (Alcorta & Sosis, 2005), have some common characteristics.
They are performed at times of perceived uncertainty, when individuals and groups
wish to influence the outcomes of circumstances that they perceive as vital to their
livelihood and survival (Dissanayake 1992, in press; Rappaport, 1999; Turner,
1969). They are typically multimodal, combining singing, instrument playing,
dancing, literary language, dramatic spectacle, and the decoration of bodies, surroundings,
and paraphernalia. In addition, they are typically participative: even
when an audience observes specialists performing, they join in by clapping, moving,
shouting, singing, and so forth. As John Chernoff, a scholar of West African
drumming, has observed: “the most fundamental aesthetic in Africa is that without
participation, there is no meaning” (Chernoff, 1979, p. 23).
……the arts in ceremonial contexts have very many functions identity feasibility life cycles, relief of stress foster cooperation maintain social harmony etc etc…..
………so they question a neuroaesthetic approach to art….
…….they suggest instead a not in of the arts as ‘things that people do’……..
We suggest that it is profitable to consider the arts not as objects (paintings,
songs), qualities of objects (beauty, consonance), cues to sensory-cognitive preferences,
or passive registrations of sensory/cognitive stimuli, but as behaviors of
artification—things that people do. Over several decades, one of us [ED] has gradually
refined such a concept (Dissanayake, 1988, 1992, 2000, in press). Artification
(originally called “making special”) refers to the universally observed penchant
of human individuals (and groups) to “make ordinary reality extraordinary”
(Dissanayake, 1992, p. 49).
ritualisation as part of art
…..ritualisation and artification……….
Briefly, ritualized
behaviors are communicative displays that take ordinary, unremarkable behaviors
drawn from everyday life (e.g., preening, nest building, pecking for food) and use
them in an altered manner and novel context in order to communicate something
entirely different from their original source
…altered by a)simplified – formalised stereotyped or patterned b)repeated c) exaggerated d) elaborated e) manipulation of expectation
These alterations or operations
serve to attract attention to and sustain interest in the new message, which is often
concerned with aggression or courtship.
……….they make the point that artification (the things enumerated above) has not only an aesthetic effect but also a cognitive one………
mainly to generate a new signification for something compared with
its ordinary meaning or use. For example, ornamentation of objects like weapons or
vessels is a way of giving them special power: the placement of a crucifix in a new
church is a way of sanctifying and protecting it, and the utterance of special texts like
prayers or incantations is a way of making contact with remote deities. Hence, the
emphases that underlie the “alterations” of artification involve not only changes
in context or performance properties such as repetition and exaggeration but include
cognitive changes in the signification and function of an object or event. Arts
behaviors are among the most important mechanisms that link ritual practices with
cognitive belief systems
note that interactions between mother and child rely on features of ratification mothers
….diss says that this coordinated dibasic behaviour evolved because od ‘the obstetric dilemma’ of 2 million years ago with bipedalism = narrower pelvis conflicted with enlarged brains and skulls……..
Dissanayake
(2000; in press) suggests that human sensitivity to and competence for the operations
of artification originated phylogenetically in evolved interactions between ancestral
mothers and their immature infants.
…..need for a theory of emotion……
……….brown/diss define emotions….:
responses to events or objects in the environment,
driven by appraisals of goodness or badness
strongly tied to goaldriven
motivational states important for survival,
….also focus and BET….
….ALSO CLORE/ORTONY SCHEME;
……….four foci outcomes objects agency social interaction
2) Objects. The second category deals with valenced reactions to the aspects of
objects and events. Importantly for this volume, it is this category that comprises the
aesthetic emotions, spanning the range from liking/attraction to disliking/disgust.
This is also the category that is invoked when people discuss preferences and taste.
Hence, feelings of aesthetic attraction, whether for a face, a food item, a melody, or a
building, fall into this category, as do negative-valenced counterparts such as hate
and disgust. Regarding neuroaesthetics, it is telling that the basic emotion theory
does not contain a positive-valenced aesthetic term (e.g., attraction, liking, love),
only the negative-valenced emotion of disgust.
Aesthetic emotions are unquestionably an integral part of the arts, but they are
neither necessary nor sufficient to characterize them. Thus, a narrow focus on
aesthetic responses is ultimately a distraction from the larger picture of what the arts
are about. Finally, to the extent that the arts are perceived as rewarding, this is not so
only because artworks are appealing objects. There is a wide variety of rewarding
emotions that occur when people create and experience art apart from simply
object-based emotions, including the pleasure of social communion and the moral
zeal of common cause.
A thousand brains
chapter two ; author says that the brain is a prediction machine – always monitoring its environment (unconsciously??) when it comes across something that does not fit its predictions it stops and pays attentiion
would that explain the power of art? why would we pay attention? how would the act of paying attention be pleasurable to us? how would the act of paying attention contribute to our survival?
I think I work on this very simple understanding of evolution: things that helped us survive were things that we did a lot because they were pleasurable. so did it take an individual who did an action and enjoyed doing it and that action was favourable to the survival of that individual.
how would the act of paying attention give rise to emotional responses to art so that we are moved to sadness or to a sense of beauty and significance
A mind-bending photograph of an orangutan with the sky reflected in water has won first prize in the Nature TTL Photographer of the Year 2021 competition.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-57335458
The image, by Canadian photographer Thomas Vijayan, is called The World is Going Upside Down. It beat 8,000 entries from around the globe to win the top prize of £1,500.
“Thomas’s image is really unique, and immediately stood out to the judging panel,” said Will Nicholls, founder of Nature TTL.
“The unique perspective and composition means you are immediately trying to figure out what exactly you are looking at.”
Mr Vijayan took the photo in Borneo, where he selected a tree that was in the water so he could get a good reflection of the sky and create the upside-down effect.
“This image means a lot to me because presently the orangutan population is reducing at an alarming rate,” he said.
“Trees over 1,000 years old – which are a major asset to our planet – are being cut down for palm oil plantation.
“As humans we have a lot of alternative choices to replace the oil, but the orangutans don’t have any options other than losing their home.”
Vijayan’s photo also won first place in the Animal Behaviour category.
Here are winning images from other categories, with descriptions by the photographers.


Andy Norman on JRE 1653 MAY 18
Andy Norman says that our brains are ‘pattern recognition engines and will generate many false positives’. they are talking about astrology and the fact that people believe in it.
my use of this would be two suggest that the ‘payoff’ is in the generation of positives, false or otherwise and maybe the entertainment of the existence of something suggested by our visual experience was a thing that contributed to our survival and thus was so important to us that it was accompanied by positive feelings in order for us to keep doing it. we get pleasure from the examination of things in our visual field particularly where they allow for the generation of ‘many false positives. precisely because this ability to generate ideas false positives, possibilities of what was there in our environment was a strong adaptive feature
