Author: Patricia Oxley

https://savvypainter.com/podcast/stuart-shils/

 

This artist talks about a moment when he changed re his art from being ‘an unreconstructed marxist’ to…….

https://www.bu.edu/today/2015/new-exhibition-recalls-the-horrors-of-hiroshima/

the presenter asks what is it about the current obsession with ‘the self’
and references selfies

the self as a word comes into english 13 or 14 century
notes that chinese sense of self is very different from our own
what is it about today that causes so much emphasis on the self- what is it about the present that makes discussions of the self seem so necessary
he asksTom McCarthy the novelist about this.
Tom says that
we are faced with the ascendancy of certain right wing sovereignty – a white male arse hole
he references brexit and trump says that this needs to be addressed
and says the arts are a space where this kind of aesthetic/ideology can be challenged/addresses destabilised put into question (cf schiller and his spielraum))

Dodd asks dexter dagwood about a painting called bay of pigs
Dalwood says that he was interested in the lin between history and art history

dodd says dal woods paintings keep the self out they exclude the self.
dalwood says he sees his paintings as photo-history
he is interested in a collective idea of the self – a projected
idea of the self so what is it when you see suggestive props of something -this person which you thought you had an idea of -then his image makes you think that it is totally not what you thought ……….. it makes you think well where am I why am I looking at this

 

 

Albert Maysles’ maxim “Tyranny is the deliberate removal of nuance”…Media is of course where this form of tyranny is most obvious.” google this for ref

Alexei talks about Strictly dancing is an art form that has been turned into a competition so that everything is done to attract the attention of the judges the competitors must do everything to fit in tight a set of rules and so a tawdry, flashy, kitch aesthetic takes over

Sayle says:’I believe that no art can directly affect politics’
and get a laugh by quoting peter cook when he opened his club and said he wanted his club to resemble the weimar cabaret scene that had done so much to stop the rise of Hitler
Says says the celebrities on strictly take part in ‘the ongoing cultural war on critical thinking’
he stretches a point by referencing orwell 1984 ‘where war is peace and freedom is slavery’ ‘so in strictly ugliness is beauty’

he says the end result is that people is that when people are confronted by the truth they cannot see because they have been so confused by lies

sayle says that news reporting is all done without historical context and this fosters a feeling of being under threat from ‘the other’
he proposes that all coverage of the middle east would go back to the

The Sykes–Picot Agreement /ˈsaɪks pi.ko/, officially known as the Asia Minor Agreement, was a secret 1916 agreement between Great Britain and France,[1] to which the Russian Empire assented. The agreement defined their mutually agreed spheres of influence and control in Southwestern Asia. The agreement was based on the premise that the Triple Entente would succeed in defeating the Ottoman Empire during World War I. The negotiations leading to the agreement occurred between November 1915 and March 1916 [2] and it was signed 16 May 1916.[3] The deal was exposed to the public in Izvestia and Pravda on 23 November 1917 and in the British Guardian on November 26, 1917.[4][5]

The agreement is still mentioned when considering the region and its present-day conflicts.[6][7]

The agreement allocated to Britain control of areas roughly comprising the coastal strip between the Mediterranean Sea and the River Jordan, Jordan, southern Iraq, and an additional small area that included the ports of Haifa and Acre, to allow access to the Mediterranean.[8] France got control of southeastern Turkey, northern Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.[8] Russia was to get Istanbul, the Turkish Straits and Armenia.[8] The controlling powers were left free to determine state boundaries within their areas.[8] Further negotiation was expected to determine international administration pending consultations with Russia and other powers, including Hussein bin Ali, Sharif of Mecca.[8]

Given Ottoman defeat in 1918 and the subsequent partitioning of the Ottoman Empire, the agreement effectively divided the Ottoman’s Arab provinces outside the Arabian peninsula into areas of British and French control and influence.[9] An international administration was proposed for Palestine apart to the Acre-Haifa zone which was intended to be an British enclave in northern Palestine to enable access to the Mediterranean.[10] The British gained control of the territory in 1920 and ruled it as Mandatory Palestine from 1923 until 1948. They also ruled Mandatory Iraq from 1920 until 1932, while the French Mandate for Syria and the Lebanon lasted from 1923 to 1946. The terms were negotiated by British diplomat Mark Sykes and a French counterpart, François Georges-Picot. The Tsarist government was a minor party to the Sykes–Picot agreement, and when, following the Russian Revolution, the Bolsheviks published the agreement on 23 November 1917, “the British were embarrassed, the Arabs dismayed and the Turks delighted.”[11]

The agreement is seen by many as a turning point in Western and Arab relations. It negated the UK’s promises to Arabs[12] made through Colonel T. E. Lawrence for a national Arab homeland in the area of Greater Syria, in exchange for supporting the British against the Ottoman Empire.

and also back to the crusades
and china back to uk and drugs
so news would be 11 hours long

from savvy painter
talking about art,
charlie hunter
says about art and how we judge/assess/evaluate art is to do with th fact thathumans
‘are not terribly confident. We want the approval of those around us so if you approach something a little bit differently it takes a long time to say ‘ ah that’s okay’
….. it is important to do the daily practice because we don’t want to inflict bad art on the world. Ch then says about people who say ‘I created this therefore it’s art -well, no, you created this then that’s good but it is a … culmination of anything or is it that you are working about some set of problems

mark steel in the Mark steel lecture on beethoven series 3 episode 1/6

says of music and politics in beethoven’s era

‘whether or not you accepted the idea that there was a proper way to do things including music betrayed your attitude to the changes that were happening in society as a whole

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When you draw you are expressing something that’s real and visceral – when you make a line its sort of a like making a seismograph of your soul.

here I want to put dictionary definitions of visceral and seismograph

http://thekidshouldseethis.com/post/step-into-the-page-disney-animator-glen-keane-draws-in-vr

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alan Bennett reading from ‘Keepingon keeping’   today said about  HIGNFY that when they got demagogues like Farage, boris and jeremy vlarkson on their purpose was to make fun of the man but that the listener didn’t take that – what they took from the programme was an instance of a warm likeable man i.e. that FB&C were warm likeable and funny.

 

What are we to learn as counter-memists?

listening to Billy O’Donnell talking on the savvy painter podcast

https://player.fm/series/savvy-painter-podcast-with-antrese-wood

 

He talks about going to art school and not having patience with art teachers who don’t teach.  He says, ( I tried to rewind the recording but couldn’t so this is what I remember him as saying:

one teacher said to him ‘This painting has no weight.’

Billy0 said, ‘what does that mean, no weight.’

the teacher said ‘that’s for you to find out.’

this story reminds me of one of my teachers saying ‘ you have to interrogate your paintings’

I didn’t ask him what he meant but instead asked him if he would show me how to do this.  I am not sure that happened.

the point of this is that there are so many words which go undefined when art teachers talk to you (from my experience).  These words are obviously used in a very specific sense for example the word ‘think’

do they go undefined because students assume that there is a meaning there but are too shy/inexperienced to ask of the meaning

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does this allow ‘art discourse to end up meaningless but impressive

or are there certain things which are intuited and that art teachers et al try to use an ineffective language to express?