The museum of curiosity abc radio 4  with fish kumar   armstrong  noel fielding john lloyd

JL:’music is very mysterious isn’t it.  Is there an objective way of saying whether its a good piece of music or a bad piece of music?’

HG ‘ trained musicians have a very good idea of whether something is well constructed whether the architecture of it has good proportion   it sort of works in its own terms   but if you say this to anyone else they say well I know what I like that music’s rubbish that musics’s great and expertise is not really allowed to operate in a field which we all enjoy

NF That’s like comedy though for us

HG  yes amongst musicians even though you don’t like something you can tell whether its any good you sort of know if theres any value to it